Verbal/linguistic intelligence is the easiest of these to consider, because most people use language, or understand it. Some people do it exceptionally well, or learn additional languages easily. In a way, it's a hard thing to appreciate, because most people use language,and can put some words down on paper, and so some don't appreciate the range of ease or facility.
For unschoolers this one can cause stumbles, because it's so... SCHOOLY. :-)
So think outside any box you're used to, if you can, and consider how this intelligence shows itself in your family, and in the world around you.
Here is something short and painless, about similarities and differences in a few pop culture words in three languages. (Two or more of these people speak English; they probably all speak Korean. "Big Bang" is a Korean boy band.)
"Sofa" is not an English word, though. :-) It's from Turkish, and Arabic before that, probably picked up by Christian Crusaders in the Middle Ages (not the upholstered furniture, but the term for it, when they DID start upholstering benches in western Europe, later). Word trivia is fun for some people, and not for other people, because.... various reasons. Think about your own.
A similar video, with the addition of Chinese, is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AusmsFqKs10
The series on multiple intelligences:
May 12 Musical intelligence
May 19 Verbal/linguistic intelligence
May 26 Logical/mathematical intelligence
June 2 Interpersonal intelligence
June 9 Intrapersonal intelligence
June 16 Bodily/kinesthetic intelligence
June 23 Naturalistic (added as #8)
Sandra Dodd: For the record, links to things on my site that would be good to explore, for those considering verbal/linguistic intelligence, who will come by this transcript later.
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/writing
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/language
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/etymology
Marta Venturini: I wish I could be there to give you a hand! 
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/smallwords (that's my favorite)
AlexPolikowsky7: Linguistic intelligence. What is the description exactly?
Marta Venturini: From Sandra's page: "Linguistic intelligence involves language use and understanding. It's not about multilingualism, though some people have a talent for learning other languages. Talent in one's own language is linguistic intelligence. Writers, poets, witty conversationalists, those who can win arguments or inspire others with words, or those who can learn well from ideas expressed in words (heard or read) are all showing linguistic intelligence."
Marta Venturini: http://sandradodd.com/intelligences/
Sandra Dodd: Linguistic intelligence involves language use and understanding. It's not about multilingualism, though some people have a talent for learning other languages. Talent in one's own language is linguistic intelligence. Writers, poets, witty conversationalists, those who can win arguments or inspire others with words, or those who can learn well from ideas expressed in words (heard or read) are all showing linguistic intelligence.
Sandra Dodd: Doh
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Marta Venturini:
Sandra Dodd: I keep hoping people will come to the chats having already looked, and have stories ready to share!
Serah: i tend to like shows that are linguistically rich
Sandra Dodd: If there's anyone here who doesn't get the e-mail reminders, please do subscribe at the chatnotes blog. Those reminders are usually more than just "don't forget the chat."
Jill Parmer: I'm low on linguistic intelligences, although I enjoy using a thesaurus to aid me. I love reading and listening to people with high linguistic intelligence.
Sandra Dodd: "consider how this intelligence shows itself in your family, and in the world around you."—tell us a story!
Robin B: Ross would not consider himself a particularly good writer (spelling, grammar) but he has a "voice." People say things "click" when they or hear what he says. And he has had eight books published, one translated into German, Korean, and soon, Chinese.
Sandra Dodd: Serah, I've been thinking about that while watching Korean dramas. I'm sure they're twice as good for those who understand the language, but they're pretty great even with subtitles.
Robin B: When they read, that should read.
Sandra Dodd: Robin, that's what being a good writer is, I think. And it might be impossible to teach it.
Sandra Dodd: But it can be coached, a bit maybe.
Robin B: Yes. He discovered that late in life, too.
Robin B: He is very modest about his talents.
Sandra Dodd: Robin, I don't understand "When they read, that should read."—please clarify.
Robin B: Sorry. In the sentence "People say things "click" when they (read) or hear what he says."
Sandra Dodd: Jill, Keith is that way—he can write, but it's not so flowy. But if he takes a while he can say really clear and original things—you too!!
Sandra Dodd: (Thanks, Robin. )
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Robin B:
Sandra Dodd: That sentence above should read "when they read..."
Sandra Dodd: Got it. Either all of this will stay in the transcript, or I'll just fix the original and delete my confusion.
Marta Venturini: When I read the chat note, it made me think about my grandfather, my dad's father. He had been a lawyer, professionally, and then we he retired, he continued to help people out by giving them legal advice. He wrote a lot. I remember that, at the time, I thought he wrote in a very fancy way. Even his letters to us (he loved to write to my brother) were always very eloquent. I have such fond memories of him.
Robin B: I read it in my head with the word "read" in it, even though it wasn't there.
Sandra Dodd: When I was studying education, so long ago, I wrote in my notes this: "All important outcomes of education are measurable." I think that's a direct quote, of me, quoting my professor, in 1972 or so.
Sandra Dodd: I think what it means is that if it can't be measured, it can't be considered by professional educators. But it was worded SO AWKWARDLY.
Sandra Dodd: So with school and schoolishness, and homeschooling, and unschooling, it's several steps to take to get away from the idea that linguistic intelligence has to do with writing. I brought links about writing myself, up top there.
Jill Parmer: In the realm of pattern writing and sewing instruction, I think many newer independent pattern writers are lacking in linguistic intelligence. Many use paragraphs to instruct and still at the end of that, I'm confused. When I find a brilliant pattern writer, I gather up their patterns.
Sandra Dodd: But thinking and speaking—choosing good words, arranging them so they're not very confusing or ambiguous, maybe so that they're amusing or inspiring—that happens with speech, too. Riding in the car, talking to the family, there are boring lame things people say and sometimes cool and memorable things.
Jill Parmer: Hmmmm, I just equated linguistic intelligence with writing. As in getting an idea across with words.
Sandra Dodd: Good idea, Jill! There are recipes and writings about food that are very, very nicely and clearly and entertainingly written, too!
There are recipes and writings about food that are very, very nicely and clearly and entertainingly written, too!
Sandra Dodd: We can't hear conversations we're not in, though, so we can only get the long-distance evidence in writing.
Sandra Dodd: We can't hear conversations we're not in, though, so we can only get the long-distance evidence in writing.
Robin B: Speaking and writing with humor is a skill, as well.
Sandra Dodd: But for unschooling purposes. we can practice on our own by playing around and being more aware, and can be appreciative of clarity and cleverness in our kids.
Jill Parmer: Deb Lewis has the skill to write with humor.
Sandra Dodd: And underneath speaking and writing with humor is a base of.... peacefulness? Cleverness? A facility with thought. Mental gymnastics. Deb can do mental gymnastics. My friend Michael Hersh is a funny, funny writer. He used to write me long letters with humor based on my real life, and they were great. Now he sometimes makes a great facebook post.
Marta Venturini: She does indeed, Jill. I love to read what she writes.
Robin B: And although it's in musical form, Weird Al Yankovic can rewrite songs so that I only want to hear and sing his versions.
Sandra Dodd: So that might be a combination in intrapersonal and verbal/linguistic, but maybe we should save the combinations.
Sandra Dodd: VERBAL VERBAL VERBAL, Weird Al!
Jill Parmer: I'm really enjoying hanging out and chatting with Luke. He's thinking more deeply about things and becoming more articulate. So fun to watch.
Sandra Dodd: He can hear a song for the sound of it, not for the meaning, and overlay other similar sounds until he has a same-sounding set of lyrics, and that's like a magic trick in the air, when he sings it back out.
Robin B: Yes!
Jill Parmer: Yeah!
Sandra Dodd: I have two Weird Al ticket stubs right next to me here, because I scanned them yesterday for the record. Kirby and Destiny are going to El Paso to see Weird Al next month (or july? I think June). It will be her first time and his fourth.
Sandra Dodd: But his original things are some of the very best. Hardware Store and Everything You Know is Wrong are two of my favorites, because they're SO full of words, so intricately arranged, and they move so fast.
Sandra Dodd: I have a recent example which will now seem small in the shadow of the Great Weird Al.
Sandra Dodd: I'll put it in several lines, ad put them back together later, so go ahead and post, anyone who wants to.
Sandra Dodd: I sent it to a friend of ours (who responded "That's sweet. I can totally hear you guys having this conversation. ", so I can cut and paste it.
", so I can cut and paste it.
Jill Parmer: Lately I'm enjoying reading and listening to Lin Manuel Miranda talk about his writing process and choosing words to rap and put in his musicals. *Lin Manuel Miranda is the writer of the Broadway musical, Hamilton.
Sandra Dodd: Keith asked me if bread pudding was period.
Sandra Dodd: No, Keith said “How old’s bread pudding?” I said “Thursday? You put it away.”
Sandra Dodd: I thought he meant how long had the bread pudding with cherries been in our refrigerator.
Sandra Dodd: No, he said, how old is bread pudding.
Robin B:
Sandra Dodd: Oh. Bread with milk and eggs… old.
Sandra Dodd: So I googled something to read him, and this was the first one, and that part I quoted reads aloud really beautifully.
Marta Venturini: Hehehehe
Sandra Dodd: "Not surprisingly, medieval bread pudding is rather different from its Southern descendant. Where the Creole variety tastes of heat and summer and warm breezes and vanilla, its ancient counterpart is scented with the spices of winter - cloves, nutmeg, and cinnamon - sweetened with honey, and soaked in red wine. “
Robin B: Oh! That is lovely. Evocative. My mouth is watering....
Sandra Dodd: If you read that aloud to yourself, it turns to poetry. Not the conversation with Keith, but the paragraph comparing Creole/Southern-U.S. bread pudding with medieval. It's not "rhythmic," but it's lyrical.
Marta Venturini: Beautiful
Serah: nice
Robin B: "scented with the spices of winter"
Jill Parmer: "tastes of heat and summer and warm breezes" Wow,
Sandra Dodd: Jill, do you have a link to something you'd recommend about Lin Manuel Miranda?
Jill Parmer: I'm amazed at people who make non-tasting words taste like something! Wow.
Jill Parmer: I have so many, let me look.
Sandra Dodd: Everyone who's here and writing is writing because it's not too painful, it's fairly fun. If there was a pickup basketball game outside your window and you went out to play, it would be the kinesthetic equivalent of coming to this chat, I think.
Marta Venturini:
Sandra Dodd: So very likely what keeps people from coming here is a lack of quick words, or a lack of interest in or appreciation for quick words. That's okay.
Robin B: Ross and I had one of those moments, years ago. I meant to tell him I had poured a bowl of cereal for him, while I was in the kitchen. I said, instead, "I poured a bowl of cereal downstairs for you." He said "Why did you pour the cereal down the stairs? Kind of messy."
Sandra Dodd: I wouldn't go out to play basketball.
Sandra Dodd: OMG, Robin! Holly called us the other day, and I put her on speaker because Keith was in the room and she said "My truck rolled over..." and the next few words were about when and where.
Sandra Dodd: DAMN IT! I stopped breathing and my heart stopped, and Keith tensed up a little—I guess he was at least partly thinking of which car to take to go and help her.
Sandra Dodd: Guess what!?
Sandra Dodd: She should have said: "My odometer rolled over 100,000 miles when-and-where."
Robin B: Ha!
Marta Venturini: Ha!
Serah: OMG! my heart stopped!
Jill Parmer: Ack!
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Sylvia Woodman: Hi! Sorry I'm late!
Sandra Dodd: Yeah. Her 100 miles away, and "her truck rolled over." It hurt me just to repeat the story just now!
Robin B: Yikes.
Sandra Dodd: She said she didn't know the term "odometer." That's fine. I've nearly recovered now.
Robin B: Phew!
Sandra Dodd: Yeah, Serah, it was scary!
Serah: im glad she learned "odometer" now!
Robin B: I can imagine you and Keith holding your collective breath, then letting it all out in a whoosh when Holly explained.
Sandra Dodd: Usually people say that their odometer hit 100,000, though, so "my truck hit...." wasn't going to help either. Passed 100,000 miles sounds good to me.
Robin B: That's what I said when my car hit 200,000 miles!
Sandra Dodd: My same cousin with the indoor/outdoor woodstove from a story at the beginning... in high school her boyriend was on a small motorcycle (as so many guys were, in the 1960's—those little Hondas and Yamahas that teens could afford).
Sylvia Woodman: I took a picture when my odometer got to 150,000 miles and I texted it to Jim because we are nerds.
Sandra Dodd: A car hit him, broke his femur, very near our house while Nada wasn't home. My mom and I were on our way to pick her up from her babysitting job, saw Frankie with the EMT's, he said to tell Nada, and the ambulance came, and here is what I ignorantly and tactlessly told Nada:
Sandra Dodd: "Frankie got hit by a car."
Sandra Dodd: STUPID. She 'bout died of a heart attack.
Sandra Dodd: And ever since that day I have been MUCH more careful about how I deliver bad news.
Sylvia Woodman: Ooops!
Sandra Dodd: "We saw Frankie on the way here. He's okay, but got knocked off his bike, and I think his leg's broken, so we can go to the hospital later and see. Maybe you could call his mom."
Sandra Dodd: That's what i WISH I had said.
Sandra Dodd: But I jumbled it all up without planning.
Sandra Dodd: And now I'm more aware.
Sylvia Woodman: Sometimes things that sound ok in my head sound quite different once they pass my lips.
Sandra Dodd: Probably that's one of the seminal moments in my life that led me to be so confident advising people to think before they speak and make a choice. I never thought of it until just now, but surely it must be high on my subconscious list of "LIKE THAT" as bad examples inside my soul.
Sylvia Woodman: I've managed to short circuit a fight or two between Harry and Gabriella where one says something kind of rude and I "help out" by rephrasing it a bit more tactfully.
Sandra Dodd: But wait... That's not linguistic/verbal. That's logical/mathematical—flow chart progression or something.
Robin B: Senna told me a tumblr story (there are plenty of them). Someone wrote that they were riding with a friend in a car. They were trying to tell the driver to go off at the exit, and when they missed it, to go back, but all they could get out was "QUACK!"
Jill Parmer: About Lin Manuel Miranda, this has links and comments about all the songs. http://genius.com/albums/Lin-manuel-mira...
Robin B: Sylvia, I did that, too! At the 200,000 mark!
Sylvia Woodman: Because you are my soulmate, Robin.
Robin B: Of course, Ross was thinking "There goes the resale value...."
Jill Parmer: oooh, I love the, six words stories people do on reddit or wherever. Luke and I make some up when we go walking, and we realized it seems easier to make up sad stories with just six words. So if you look them up, be aware of that.
regan: I think a kind of linguistic intelligence is when someone can quote from a book they read, or from a movie they saw... some people can do this from only one reading/watching.
Sandra Dodd: Marty borrowed my van to go to Phoenix, when it was just 80 miles from 100,000. He said he would photograph it with it's interesting surroundings, but they missed it. That's okay.
Sandra Dodd: Yes, regan, I think so. Verbal should probably also include aural (hearing) but that's not in any of the intelligences.
Jill Parmer: Here's some with the tag, 'happy'. http://www.sixwordstories.net/category/s...
Robin B: Cool, Jill!
Sandra Dodd: There are stories, from history, of people who could repeat things exactly. Greek orators (their audiences sometimes had someone who could go and tell it again). There were people who could write music from hearing it once, who would go to Gilbert and Sullivan musicals (they were the Monty Python / Weird Al of their time and place, Victorian days) and go back and write the music down with instrumentation and publish it. Like bootleging a movie, but... pen and ink.
Sandra Dodd: Keith and Kirby are both good at watching a movie and then telling it back, in order, remembering characters' names and places.
Sandra Dodd: Not me.
Sandra Dodd: Kirby laughed and said I was lucky, beause I could watch a movie repeatedly and always be surprised at the ending.
Jill Parmer: Oh, Luke is too. And he can remember jokes and tell them well. I can't.
Sandra Dodd: I can never tell a movie like that. Keith can take three hours to tell a two-hour movie, though, because he has so much detail.
Sandra Dodd: I only take an hour, but it's horribly, "Oh yeah, but before that..." and "Yeah, because I forgot to tell you that he already knew that..."
Sandra Dodd: So neither Keith nor I want to hear the other one summarize a movie, much.
Sandra Dodd: So I think logic and hearing, somehow, maybe. Howard Gardner might want to think about that one. OH!! Spatial!
Sandra Dodd: Maybe? Maybe it's mapping.
Sandra Dodd: Alex— are you good at remembering a story in order?
Sylvia Woodman: I can remember passages of text. I can see it - where it is on the page, what kind of font, what color etc.
Sandra Dodd: I'm SO not. Google is my great friend. I wanted to find a scene to show Holly, in Secret Garden, and I could only guess within like four episodes out of 20. SO vague.
Sandra Dodd: Nice, Sylvia. My friend Jeff can do that.
Sandra Dodd: He can also picture a scene—if he was at a party, he will know who was there and what they were wearing.
Sylvia Woodman: Not all the time, not all of it. I wonder if that skill could be strengthened and what I might need to do -- if it's even possible at my advanced age.
Sandra Dodd: My own memories are emotionally based. If I was at a party and noboy got scared, excited, jealous, angry, nobody fell in love, nobody died.... I don't have a picture of it at all.
Sandra Dodd: Jeff's ability faded. It might be something natural in late teens and early 20's that would be adaptable for hunting or gathering—remembering places clearly, and what's there.
Marta Venturini: (I need to go for a bit. Conchinha isn't feeling well. I might be back, not sure.)
Sandra Dodd: Linguistic intelligence has to do with learning other languages easily, too.
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Sylvia Woodman: Feel better Conchinha!!!
Sandra Dodd: That's partly why I included the videos that were in the e-mail announcement (which I hope some of you saw).
Sandra Dodd: The host of those, Dave, became fluent in Korean in six years. It was his solid goal to do that. He wanted to be good enough to become a comedian. He's changed his mind now and is more interested in video/film.
Sylvia Woodman: Jewish tradition is filled with tales of exceptional tales of scholars who could memorize pages and pages of Talmud
Robin B: Dave is cool.
AlexPolikowsky7: I love those videos!
Sandra Dodd: Eddie Izzard wanted to learn French well eough to do stand-up comedy in France. Interesting.
Robin B: I think Biblical scholars memorized the Bible, too, didn't they?
Sylvia Woodman: Yes.
Sandra Dodd: A friend of ours was memorizing The Hobbit. He had the frst several chapters. That's pretty useless.
Sandra Dodd: It would not have been useless if the printing press wasn't around, or paper processing, at the time.
AlexPolikowsky7: I want to learn enough Korean to understand most of the shows and music..... I just love the language
Serah: Same with the Quran. Memorized and passed on before being written
Sylvia Woodman: One of my friends from high school knew several hundred digits of Pi. Also useless.
Robin B: Even though I don't speak any languages but English fluently (and sometimes I wonder about that!), I can pick up accents and pronunciation fairly easily in other languages.
Sylvia Woodman: Or if it was a banned book....
Sandra Dodd: The book Farenheit 451 is about people memorizing single books, each person, after the government started destroying all books. That might be where he got the idea.
AlexPolikowsky7: I think I can learn it too. I just need to put a little more time into it unless I was in Korea for a couple years.
Sandra Dodd: Last week I said I thought picking up accents and pronunciation was a combo of musical and linguistic, but now I want to propose it goes with aural intelligence which isn't in the list.
AlexPolikowsky7: I see Learning a new language almost like a puzzle.
Sylvia Woodman: Aural and Oral....
Sandra Dodd: I don't think photographic memory or memorization are verbal/linguistic intelligence, though.
Sandra Dodd: Aural and Oral are just things that make English irritating.
Sylvia Woodman: You're right. Sorry to veer off the path....
Robin B: I missed last week, but I probably would have connected them, as well. I can also remember lyrics and how music goes. Pitch.
Robin B: I play a game with the satellite radio. When the signal goes out, I sing whatever's on the station to see if it matches up when it comes back on. :-0
Robin B: That's me singing ^.
Robin B: I can do it pretty well!
Sandra Dodd: I went to look the up. "Oral" is old," but "aural" is one of those words built from Latin parts in Victorian days.
Sylvia Woodman: That's cool Robin!
Sandra Dodd: I don't know what they might have called "the ability to pay attention to sounds/words/music" before then.
Sandra Dodd: Probably, honestly, they just called it other things—studious, attentive, clever.
Sandra Dodd: Psychology wasn't around yet, so people weren't being so analytical about how perception works.
Robin B: It helps as a hula dancer to hear the music and words and beat. Some of my hula sisters cannot do it, which makes their learning more difficult.
Sandra Dodd: I like that, too, Robin—to stay at the same speed and in the same key until it comes back.
Sandra Dodd: It happens with announcements in stores with music—like the grocery store announcing something's on sale, and then the music coming back.
Robin B: Yes! There, too!
Sandra Dodd: I think one reason people sometimes don't see verbal/linguistic intelligence as "a thing" is that everyone talks, everyone writes. And so some people think speech is speech, and if you know the language and can ask and answer questions, that you're in the range of good.
Sandra Dodd: Or people who can write (especially if they can also spell and use the rules of grammar) think that IS writing—that putting lots of words on paper is as good as someone else putting an equal number of words on paper. And some think that the one with the fewest misspellings "wrote best."
Sandra Dodd: But as With Robin's description of Russ's writing—it's not that.
Sandra Dodd: We talked a bit about dance, when music was the topic. Some people can't really dance musically. And Robin told that too, about the hula dancers who are likely to be more mechanically going through motions, than actually embodying the rhythm and emotion of the song.
Sandra Dodd: Years ago I was introduced at a party, to someone really interesting, whose dad was famous, and it was a quick hostess introduction and then the hostell left.
Sandra Dodd: "This is my friend Sandra. She's a really great writer."
Jill Parmer: There is a deaf dancer on Dancing with the Stars this season. He is just going through the motions, but he seems to have some sense of musicality. And its odd to know that the voice speaking for him (his interpreter) is not his voice.
Sandra Dodd: hostess left, not "the hostel left"
Sandra Dodd: So I'm standing there blinking, and he said "Oh? What do you write?" This was when my kids were really young. I hadn't written all this parenting/unschooling flood yet.
Sandra Dodd: I had written quite a bit, but mostly articles about medieval topics, or virtues, or how to get along, or how to think or write. Sometimes about music (how to organize a small choir or madrigal group) or how to make a tunic with a faced facing...
Sometimes about music (how to organize a small choir or madrigal group) or how to make a tunic with a faced facing...
Sandra Dodd: So...
Sandra Dodd: I thought, and I was thinking "too long a pause will prove I can't write SHIT—not even an answer to "what do you write?"
Sandra Dodd: So the pause was probably four seconds, but seemed like 30.
Sandra Dodd: And I said "Humorous how-to."
Sylvia Woodman: Quick thinking!
Jill Parmer: Nice answer. Would have intrigued me!
Sylvia Woodman: Me too!
Sylvia Woodman: AND the hostess was right!
Sandra Dodd: I had told Pam Sorooshian that story, a few years after that, and after another few years, she found a name for it! I was kind of excited. Still am.
Still am.
Sandra Dodd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_n...
Sandra Dodd: Literary non-fiction, lyrical non-fiction, narrative non-fiction.
Sandra Dodd: Creative nonfiction, that article alls it. And it says this: Forms within this genre include biography, autobiography, memoir, diary, travel writing, food writing, literary journalism, chronicle, personal essays and other hybridized essays.
Sandra Dodd: Those are the things I like to listen to, at audible.com, and they have a lot of it, too.
Sandra Dodd: I listened to a book Jimmy Carter wrote about his mother (and he read it himself) and I was thrilled.
Sandra Dodd: It was the first time anyone had asked me "what do you write?"
Sandra Dodd: I had written one thing, and then another thing, and another, as people needed things written.
Sandra Dodd: Invitations, directions, summaries, reports.
Sylvia Woodman: And later you provided a forum for other people to write.
Sylvia Woodman: I know that my writing and by extension my thinking has improved by participating in discussions like these chats, Always Learning and Radical Unschooling Info.
Jill Parmer: Humorous how-to, Creative Non-fiction...no wonder I like your writing so much.
Sandra Dodd: In the SCA, I had helped write policies, laws, armor regulations—to make them clear. And those are all technical writing, and not artsy, except when (sometimes) it's technical writing with phrases from late 16th, early 17th century English (Shakespeare, King James Bible—both were internalized, and so using those parts in writing wasn't hard for me).
Sandra Dodd: I created a sort of newsletter in the late 80's, early 90's called "ThinkWell: Like a Thinktank, but Deeper"
Sandra Dodd: Thinkwell was about SCA philosophy and issues, and people would write to me (typewriter, handwritten, or computer-and-printed) and send them by mail.
Jill Parmer: I try to pass along information, and make things easier for people at work by writing notes and instructions. My writing is very list like.
Sandra Dodd: They would be comments on the issue before, and I would go through the letters and mark them with what should go where, and the best parts got printed in the next issue. And I would arrange them so that they flowed sensibly from one to the other.
Robin B: I like that newsletter title!
Sandra Dodd: Photocopying was dirt cheap at the university library—like 1.5 cents a side. No extra charge for colored paper or two-sided or collating.
Sandra Dodd: And I sent them by bulk mail, so that was really cheap in those days too.
Sandra Dodd: And there were between 300 and 400 subscribers by Issue 20. By then there were user groups, and SOME (not lots) webpages people could leave comments on. And there were already things like "mailing lists" so that one person could send out a newsletter to lots of people by e-mail.
Sandra Dodd: So the technology of what I was doing passed quickly by.
Robin B: Jill, I think the deaf person on DWTS likely "feels" the beat or vibrations of the music. He probably focuses in on the senses he has. He's pretty good!
Sandra Dodd: But in that time, LOTS of people got to express themselves to a large and very interested audience, most of them for the first time. THey were all over the U.S. and some in Australia and Canada.
Sandra Dodd: I heard stories of people seeking out writers they liked, at SCA events, to talk to the. We had in-person discussion. "ThinkWell Discussions"—sometimes in a home, sometimes around a campfire. They were really, really great.
Sandra Dodd: And all of those ideas and those experiences helped me with what I've done with unschoolers, too—encouraging those who are writing for the first time, or thinking deeply for the first time.
Jill Parmer: I've been waiting for the DWTS people to talk about that, and they haven't so far. The professional dancer gives the deaf dancer signals, with a scratch on the back and such. That's all I've heard so far in the interviews.
Sandra Dodd: I didn't capitalize the title right the first time, Robin. And there was a good font to go with it.
Sandra Dodd: Early days of Word, when it was a Macintosh program, and elegant, and without that I could not have done what I was doing. It was word 5.0. When a friend upgraded my computer against my will, with me saying "No, it's fine," the new version of word lost the careful formatting. I'm still crushed.
Sandra Dodd: Oh. And I screenprinted the envelopes, and some of those were humorous, too.
Sandra Dodd: And now, with that cut-and-arrange good quotes, I've built SandraDodd.com Tadaa! Word sculptures. Kind of.
Sandra Dodd: I started to put it in an HTML version so that topics could flow one to another, but I got tired and frustrated.
Sandra Dodd: I started to put it in an HTML version so that topics could flow one to another, but I got tired and frustrated.
Sandra Dodd: But the logo looked like this:
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/tw/1
Sandra Dodd: And it was two columns on blue paper, usually about 24 pages. Kind of a big deal, for a few years. And just voluntary, just me wanting to do it, and I think I was charging $3 for four issues or something very cheap.
Sandra Dodd: The first six issues are there.
Sandra Dodd: Maybe it was $3 per copy, but I don't think so.
Sandra Dodd: Sorry to have gone on a big long story.
Sandra Dodd: I hogged the end of the chat time. I'm sorry.
Sandra Dodd: Summary: Some people find words and language easy to frolic in and with.
Sandra Dodd: Some don't.
Jill Parmer: Nice
Sandra Dodd: So be kind to your children and give them what they need whether it's less or more, or help or materials, and don't try to compare them too much to others.
Sylvia Woodman: I liked reading this.
Sandra Dodd: Appreciate them where they are and help them out.
Jill Parmer: Is that going to be a Just Add Light and Stir? I like it.
Sandra Dodd: $10! It was $10 for four issues.
Sandra Dodd: How could I forget?
Jill Parmer: Was that cheap or expensive then?
Sylvia Woodman: For the effort that Sandra was putting in? Very cheap!
Sandra Dodd: That was cheap.
Sandra Dodd: Do me a favor, please, those three of you left. Go to this link, and scroll down to #18.
Sandra Dodd: http://sandradodd.com/tw/directory
Sandra Dodd: Screen printed on 9x12 envelopes, some white, some tan, that people would donate to me. Some new, some used.
Sandra Dodd: Someday maybe I'll find other envelopes and have them all.
Jill Parmer: Who is Babaloo?
Sandra Dodd: Cariadoc of the Bow, who's listed as one of the authors there in red, is David Friedman who is occasionally interviewed as an unschooling dad. His dad was Milton Friedman.
Robin B: Isn't that from Quick Draw McGraw?
Sandra Dodd: I knew him from the SCA and did NOT know he was unschooling until his kids were big.
Sandra Dodd: From I Love Lucy.
Robin B: Ah! Right.
Sandra Dodd: And maybe quickdraw mcgraw picked it up from there.
Robin B: That was Baba Looey!
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Jill Parmer: I just looked it up. I used it sometimes when the kids were young, and no idea how I had that word.
Jill Parmer: Heh, I get it now. And I like the 'Philosophers' and 'Grammarians'.
Sandra Dodd: It was me having fun with words and ideas, while my kids were little.
Sylvia Woodman: Wait...Milton Friedman's son is an Unschooling Dad.....
Robin B: I love Lucidity! Good one, Sandra.
Sandra Dodd: He's an SCA guy, too, Sylvia.
Sandra Dodd: A cook. He did lots of research on recipes.
Sandra Dodd: And his SCA persona is an Arab. I don't know the details of when and where he intended to be from.
Sylvia Woodman: OK I think I'm off to take the kids for ice cream. They were very good about sitting through 2.5 hours of graduation ceremonies this morning and then long lunch in a fancy restaurant.
Sandra Dodd: He became a professor.
Sandra Dodd: Have fun with ice cream!!
Serah: thanks for chat! gotta go too....
Sandra Dodd: Thans for being here.
